Podcast 215: A Funny Gossip Story; RHORI Reunion; Tea We Hoped Wasn’t True

In episode 215 of Cocktails and Gossip, Amanda and B kick off with a funny gossip story, react to Rula's dramatic transformation, break down the RHORI Part 1 reunion, and share some tea they really hoped wasn't true.

Topics Discussed

• A Funny Gossip Story — An entertaining gossip story to start the episode
• Rula's Transformation — The latest on Rula's dramatic transformation and surrounding tea
• RHORI Reunion Part 1 — Full recap and reactions to the Real Housewives of Rhode Island reunion
• Gina and the Housewives — Breaking down the Gina drama and what it means
• Tea We Hoped Wasn't True — Disappointing tea that unfortunately turned out to be real

Mentioned in This Episode

Rula, Gina Kirschenheiter, RHORI cast

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Frequently Asked Questions

What's up, cocktailers? Hello, Amanda. Hi, B. Hi, cocktailers. Hope everybody is now officially enjoying summer, because I think I jumped the gun a little bit last week by saying happy summer. First, I wanted to say from all of us, congratulations and well wishes and hugs to Danielle Oliveira and her boyfriend, Owen, who welcomed their son, Aiden. He is 10 weeks early. He is in the NICU, and we are sending love to everyone involved.

Sending so much love to them and to baby Aiden. I know many of us have experience with preemies, and especially for all moms, it's a very worrisome time. I happen to be familiar with Stony Brook Hospital. They're a fantastic hospital. They're not so close to Montauk, but they're the best in the area. My friend from college had her children there. I know people who've used the NICU there. It's top-notch. So I have no doubt that the baby is getting the best care.

I know from having friends who have been through this what a scary experience it is. It's so scary to have a preemie, and I just wanna give a shout-out to the NICU nurses, because I literally think that they put the cream of the crop nurses in NICU and labor and delivery. They're amazing. Angels. My labor and delivery nurse, I was like, "Wait, can you please come home with me?" Oh my God, they're angels on earth. All nurses are. Shout out to all of our medical cocktailers, we love you.

I always joke that I'm a last responder, because I'm so scared. Anything, an allergic reaction, blood. I am not good at it. My sister-in-law, my mother-in-law are nurses. Lot of medical people in my family, and they're made of strong stuff. One of my friends has an aspiring doctor daughter. She's still in high school, but she's doing this club where they get to learn about everything, and they went to a cadaver viewing and her daughter fainted. But she's going back again. She's that determined. Good for her.

A Funny Gossip Story

I have something very funny. I know we were gonna get into Rhode Island, but something just popped up so I'm gonna read it. This was a cocktail exclusive. It says, "Cook is getting his cookies," and it basically says Kyle hooked up with my friend. She said he has a huge dick. They went to his room, hooked up for like an hour. She said the hookup was great. Once he finished, he immediately got up to pee, then left without saying goodbye. Okay, I'm actually really glad. A lot of times when I get emails, they don't always make sense, and this is where Amanda and I are at a crossroad because sometimes it doesn't immediately make sense, but I like to trust the source.

So I purposely didn't change it because you'll see that it said that they went to his room, he got up to pee, and then he left without saying goodbye. So of course the comments on the post and the DMs were flooded saying, "This makes no sense. Why would he leave his own room?" And I'm like, I don't know. He's always got a million things going on. Maybe he had an event at Cannes. So today Page Six posted an interview. Kyle and Lindsay are in Cannes, France. They're doing a media event. And a clip, they were basically asking him how many people he's hooked up with, 'cause he keeps getting caught kissing. And he said, "Shout out to Astrid, she's in my bed." So I repost it. I'm like, "Oh my God, Cocktailers, if you've read the most recent email about Kyle." So we have an email. This just goes to show you how freaking exciting it is to be a Cocktailer.

You know me, I'm very honest in my DMs. I'm like, I didn't change it. My assumption was that the person who sent this email wrote it up quickly, and the mistake was they were in the girl's room and not his room. And yesterday I almost for a second was like, should I go back and change it? 'Cause sometimes you get these DMs about the same thing that I can't answer, and I'm like, you know what? I'm not changing it. So for him to say that... Now, do I know that Astrid is the one left in his bed? No. Maybe this is something that he does. Like, "Hey, I have an event. You can see yourself out." What I do know is it makes our freaking post make a lot more sense. And I know the Cocktailers can appreciate it because we got that email, and we shared it as is.

I just love our people so much. I love that people are brutally honest with us, 'cause I would be embarrassed if that happened to me, and he left me in his bed without saying goodbye. It's anonymous, so we don't know if it's you, Astrid, or not. And I love this for us because we're gonna get a follow-up. I remember reading somewhere, it's like people pay for tea, and Amanda and I have the same answer for that. It's not that deep. We post funny things, funny intel that we get. Sometimes it gets confirmed, and then we post it publicly. Like the wedding that Wes and Amanda were at, I was texting last weekend with Amanda and Tracy, and shout out to Perry who works with us as well. And I was like, "Oh my God, guys, I just got an exclusive. The reason they were at LaGuardia Airport is 'cause they're headed to a wedding. It's the Hunt family, this billionaire family." And then DeuxMoi posted about it, and I was like, "Confirmed." So when you're a cocktailer, you're in on the whole journey of it.

Because we aren't on reality television. We aren't on the inside track. Except for In the City, we're on that. We are the main character on that. But my point is it's not for everybody. But if you're a cocktailer, these are the fun moments that as a community, we love. We love getting the tea. We love then watching it unfold. Who knew I had so many people that follow me on Instagram that happen to know this billionaire Hunt family and had all these details about the NDA. It's exciting. And people who are cocktailers like it for the journey, not only the tea, not only the extra podcast. I always say people come to Cocktail Party for the gossip, but they stay for the community. And our people are the best, and not everybody's our people, and that's okay.

Okay, so this week, Rhode Island. First of all, overall, they all said that they were nervous going into it, but they all performed like seasoned housewives. This did not feel like a first-season-ever reunion to me. I agree, some better than others. Like Jo Ellen is just... I did a question and answer today, and I'm like, listen, Jo Ellen is a star. She's got everything. She's got the cute family, the interesting storyline. She will come for anybody. She will stir it up. And then of course I got the, "But I don't like her." Sometimes with Housewives, it's not necessarily about liking them, although I do like her. It's just about knowing that they make the show good. And I think the fact that she also has self-awareness is interesting, because we love a delusional housewife, but she readily admits that because of her relationship with her mother growing up, she kind of keeps going back to people, including Liz, for love and approval, and kinda getting smacked down. And the fact that she has the self-awareness to see that is refreshing.

Rula's Transformation and the Tea

Let's start with Rula. Rula looked like a different person. She acted like a different person. I laughed when Alicia made a joke about Brian liking her new nose because he felt like he was with another woman, which has a double meaning since he's been with other women. I personally thought she looked beautiful. A lot of people in my DMs were not fans of the new nose. Jen Aydin's nose job was highly criticized, and a lot of people compared it to hers. I thought she looked good. I think she looked stunning before and after. You never know what people ask for when they go. You and I are both very pro plastic surgery, although I haven't ever had any. Same. But I'm very pro. Maybe she even said, "Can I have a nose like Jen Aydin?" I don't know. I think she looks amazing. But definitely was like, who is this person? And Joellen was right to call her out and be like, "Where have you been? You were only in a couple of episodes." I kinda felt like that too. There were so many episodes that I was like, this is another one Rula's just not in.

Okay, let's go to Rosie and Kelsey. The loyalty thing was a big one. Who was loyal to who? Rosie makes it clear that she very much dislikes Kelsey, attacks her on multiple levels. Kelsey continues to bring up the allegations about Rosie having an affair with the college basketball coach. And somebody at her former news station. Y'all know, sometimes when they're fighting about something on camera, they're really fighting about something else, and what they started fighting about was the haircut social media thing that Rosie didn't share that Kelsey did her hair. And keep in mind, Rosie had a pretty big local following, so she would've been a big help to Kelsey's business. Things got really nasty pretty quick, and they both have called each other liars.

RHORI Reunion Part 1 Recap

But something that was interesting, Rosie calls out Kelsey, Joellen, Alicia, and Liz for being in a clique, which they absolutely were. But I think this fight was more about, I think Rosie was upset, and this is just my feeling, not based on tea, that Kelsey was probably leading the other women in not filming with her so they could try to get her pushed off the show. And I think that's what is really going on behind the scenes. But that's just my feeling. What do you think? I think you're right, but I also think Rosie's pissed because they keep bringing up the affair with the coach, claiming she's in the police document. Listen, to be clear, we've only ever received emails about this. This is a rumor that existed about Rosie before the show. There are no documents that have been provided. Not to us, not at the reunion, not on the show. Just this long-standing circulating rumor in Rhode Island. I thought it was interesting that when Jo Ellen was like, "Oh, I know for sure," Rosie pushed her. She was like, "Yeah? Show me the police report." "Well, I've never seen it, but I spoke with the police." To me, where the coach is concerned, I know it's a long-standing rumor, but if there were any validity, if anybody could get the receipts, it'd be Jo Ellen.

I had assumed Kelsey had to take a leave of absence because the rumors got really loud. This is just me conjecturing about what could have happened. I think there's too much smoke around that situation for there not to have been something, but I also think that Rosie knows nothing can be proven because records have been sealed. And that's why she is so adamant that there is nothing. 'Cause Kelsey also said she compiled concrete digital proof, like text logs or location data, and then of course Rosie said it doesn't exist. It would've been nice if Kelsey had pulled something out to show, because it makes her look like she doesn't have it. Which she can't legally. The other thing is, she could've been asked to take a leave, and she also could've gone to the doctor and said that these rumors caused her stress and anxiety, and it was like a mental restoration leave, which under HIPAA laws, nobody would know the health reason that Rosie left. But being called out publicly about having an affair that came from nowhere would give me diarrhea too. I would need a medical leave and an adult diaper. But the other thing is Rosie wasn't married yet, so it's not like this is an affair. In any event, the fact that this was a rumor before is a thing, so we'll never know.

Here's my thing with Rosie. Do I think that Kelsey encouraged the women not to film with her? I think you're right about that. But I also remember what Kelsey said on a podcast where she was like, Rosie felt like her and Ashley were above everybody else 'cause Ashley had done Bachelorette and she was on a local television show. And I think that Rosie does act like she's Madonna. To be fair, Rhode Island's a small state, and she said that her morning show was viewed by 90% of the people that lived in the state. So I understand she was very much a local celebrity. But I do feel like she treated the other women like she was better than them, and that is why she wasn't able to create friendships. And connect with the audience. But also, notice that she connected so fast with Ashley. Well, Ashley's a very well-known influencer, and was one of the most popular Bachelorettes. So how coincidental that Rosie didn't know her before, but she connected and she's willing to go to her house and play with her kids. Yeah, because she wanted to align with the only other person who had a resume that she deemed worthy.

I think coming into second season, now that they all have fame, like Alicia is just an instant hit, Jo Ellen's hugely popular, I feel like now is when Rosie will stop maybe with the condescending. And they'll kind of be on equal playing fields, and maybe from there she'll be able to form friendships. But the whole time she was talking about her and Ashley's friendship, I wanted to say to Ashley, "Ashley, she doesn't love you. She just feels like you're somebody, and she's somebody, and everybody else is beneath." I think that is exactly why you and I and probably a lot of people haven't been able to connect with Rosie. And have felt strangely protective of Kelsey, because I think Kelsey's been really honest. How funny was it when Andy Cohen asked Rosie if Kelsey is a slam pig? I loved it. And he said it so earnestly. He has such a good sense of comedic timing. I liked Rosie's line, though, about Kelsey only having one coworker in 10 years, meaning the woman in Florida. That was a classic.

Gina and the Housewives Drama

Okay, let's go to the Joellen and Liz situation, because that was a big thing. You guys remember, it was Alicia, Joellen, Liz in the car going to Capo. The fight originally was between Liz and Alicia, 'cause Liz got mad at Alicia for using the word homeless. But somehow now Liz is way more pissed at Joellen, 'cause Joellen was, at least in her words, trying to make peace, and there's a real bitterness there in that whole entrenched fight. And of course, Rula jumps on the bandwagon with Liz, because I think she's just literally trying to go at Joellen every way that she can. Joellen's point is pretty much that Liz expects unwavering loyalty, no questions asked, no matter what. And I think the difference of what we're seeing from the finale to this first reunion is now Joellen has kind of gone back and watched, because initially Joellen fell into the trap, right? Because she was so worried about losing Liz as a friend and losing her approval. But I think now watching it back, everyone's got a different view of Liz.

Absolutely. And I know Joellen is a lot, but Liz is really a lot. Liz refuses to take accountability. She refuses to apologize. We watched her... I know it wasn't as if she beat Joellen up. So when we say that she was physically aggressive, when I see Liz refusing to apologize for the shoving and the pulling of the hair, that signals something to me. I find that dangerous. We are adults. And an adult woman is upset with Jo Ellen, and I wonder if the cameras weren't there if it would've become more physical. And I know that Jo Ellen said, "I'll punch you in the face," but it is very different to say something than to do something.

So I picked up on what Liz was saying. Liz was pissed at Jo Ellen and Alicia 'cause she felt that they planned to have the conversation in the car. What she meant was that ahead of filming that scene before dinner in the car, production told Alicia to bring up the homeless situation. So Liz was like, "And you both knew, and you texted each other about it, and I felt ambushed." I believe that Liz is telling the truth, which is also annoying that she broke the fourth wall like that. It wasn't necessary. It was a storyline. Newsflash, you said something that got a reaction out of Alicia. You're on a reality show. Production is gonna have them bring it up. And I did pick up on this. And I was like, wow, Liz better watch it. Because if she keeps doing this, she's gonna start being seen as one of the housewives who always blames production for everything, and nobody likes that. Viewers don't like it. Production doesn't like it. Andy Cohen definitely doesn't like it.

But moreover, it's pointless because, yeah, they suggested it, but Alicia, you made the comment, so you're talking about it again. They didn't make you act like a lunatic in the car. They didn't make you flip out. You could've handled it differently and not exploded and not done what you did at the restaurant where you became physically aggressive with Jo Ellen. If they had brought it up to you, and you had simply spoken to Alicia, taken accountability, said, "I really didn't have place saying that," and deescalated it, it would've gone from a big issue to a nothing issue. Production can bring anything up. It's on you how you handle it. And you have no control over yourself. It was such an outsized fight, both in the car and at Capo. It almost made me feel like somebody had said, "You guys better bring it. We're wrapping up the season, and we need something fiery." Because it made so little sense to me that Liz dug in so hard, and especially Alicia, who wouldn't hurt a fly. Alicia won't back down either. We've definitely seen that. But it doesn't make sense that she acted that way at the time, and it doesn't make sense that she's still digging in about it. Something's off with her. We've all come across people like that, who can never be wrong, and can never authentically apologize, and maybe Liz is like that.

The other thing that I'd kind of forgotten about, which is why it's helpful to have the reunion, is earlier in the season, Rula implied that Liz has cheated on her husband. My question, does it get really cold in Rhode Island? Because why is everyone cheating? It does get really cold there. It's the Northeast. So to the point of Rula, how weird was it that Liz didn't get more mad at Rula for saying that Liz cheated on her husband and that her husband cheated on her, and then saying, "Well, we were separated." She never mentioned during the season that her and Jerry were ever separated. And then out of nowhere admits, "Yeah, we were separated," and Rula and Brian saw me making out with somebody, and Brian and Rula called Jerry, her husband, the next day and told him. And Rula was like, "I didn't do that." But it was like Liz wasn't even mad at Rula for the whole cheating thing. She's more mad at Joe Ellen about the homeless comment than she is about Rula outing her marriage. Because there were rumors, but Liz denied them during the season. Now she's saying she was separated at the reunion, which was prompted by Rula's rumor, and yet her and Rula are in alliance against Joe Ellen, so none of it matters.

This is where I get a little worried about this show. Because it doesn't seem real. It seems like this is our script, and regardless, we're sticking to it. It just feels like if we're already finding all this digital information on each other and we're doing things that we've seen season 12 housewives do, I'm worried that we are devolving, where there is already so much storyline, and it feels like they're already resorting to experienced housewife tactics. And we've seen that not work out very well on other shows. We've seen Salt Lake City get called out for it to the point where they have now changed the way that all of the housewife contracts work. So it worries me to see this happening so early when there really is already so much drama.

But I think that now Liz has realized that she's probably lost Alicia as a strong ally. She's definitely lost Joe Ellen. Kelsey, I think, is gonna play it safe, and so she knows she has to have an alliance, so she's going with Rula, 'cause Rula's not going anywhere. Rula's gonna be on the show again next year, for sure. And when they're about to go to a break, Rula's like, "Oh, Andy, I have the schedule of Brian's surgeries for the day that they saw that video." I had the same reaction as Jo Ellen. Oh, give me a break. Anybody can create a schedule. She goes, "Anyone can change a date on a dashboard." Yeah, and anybody can type into Google Calendar a different schedule. We know your husband was cheating. What are you fighting about? You admitted he was having an affair. You then filmed a scene about him tracking you, and then out of nowhere she starts calling Jo Ellen a slut and accuses her of sleeping with doctors, which has never been mentioned during the season. She offers zero evidence in the first part of the reunion at least. I guess we'll have to wait for part two to see if there's anything to back that up. For the record, Amanda and I have not received any emails, nothing in my DMs about Jo Ellen cheating on her husband. And Jo Ellen is very open about the fact that before she was married she had a very active single life.

I wanna know your opinion on this. Do you feel like Rula just used a lot of restraint and is usually like this, but just used a lot of restraint when she was on camera during the first season, or do you think Rula is worried about keeping her place and felt like she had to show out at the reunion? I think she felt like she had to show out at the reunion. I think that she was trying to act oversized and attack Jo Ellen in an attempt to bring attention away from her situation, to discredit her. She very clearly has a lot of misdirected anger. I am not saying that Jo Ellen handled the situation perfectly, but at the end of the day Jo Ellen is a cast member on a reality show, and your husband is the person who shares your bed. I found how she acted embarrassing. She was like losing her voice as she was yelling. It seemed very unnatural for her. I think that she is a person who is very successful in her business life, and I think she's a person who presents a life that is very different than what actually goes on in her home, and I think the fact that she wanted to be on a reality show is psychotic for that reason. Because if they go on a reality show, we're gonna know. So Rula went around the neighborhood, well-respected, beautiful home, two beautiful kids, husband is a podiatrist, and everything was good. And then she went on the show, and now she's mad at Joe Ellen 'cause she ruined that, but you ruined it because you went on the show. Well, your husband ruined it. But let's go all the way back, and I hope that this comes up at the reunion. Rumor has it, Rula, that you broke up your marriage and Brian's first marriage, and left both of your first spouses for each other. Like, why are you on reality? 'Cause it's all coming out, baby. I think she's number-one most delusional on this cast. Oh, leaps and bounds.

Okay, so we do have kind of a funny email tangentially. And no wonder people think that I'm drunk on this podcast. Somebody said, "She slurs her words. She's drunk all the time." Now we're just making fun of the way I talk, because I don't. You know me, I'm always having to drive kids late night to places. Amanda and I have been very open about it. Our first couple of podcasts, we used to record two at a time, which was terrible because the second one, tea was super stale. So we had to stop doing that, but we also would drink. We were nervous, guys. And by the end of the second pod, you could not understand us. We were awful. So we don't do that. I will sometimes have a High Noon or a Loverboy or a glass of wine, but I will not sit here and drink, because it does not make for good podcasts. So for those of you who think that I have been drinking all the time, nope, this is actually just the way that I talk, because literally I'm driving kids all of the time in the evenings. My kids are way too busy.

So this email, tangentially, is about Rula. It is from Divorce Papers. Spill It to Bravo And Cocktails. It says, "Joe Ellen was right. The cheating husband does use AI. He made divorce papers using AI and showed the mistress. He also met her children and was 100% cheating during filming." I 100% believe it. There was rumored to be an engagement ring for the mistress. I remember hearing that. We may have a post on that. I know it's rumored Liz might not come back. I'm okay with that. Unless Rula's gonna come back and leave Brian, I don't really wanna see her. I'm gonna disagree with you. I would like to see Rula go on a villain arc. Like divorce Brian, hold her own. No, right, divorce Brian, but if she comes back and we have to watch them pretend to be happy, I can't. No. I wanna see the real person. I wanna see her not take any bullshit from anybody. We'll see. But I don't want any more of this playing house BS, because if we don't see the foot again, it'll be too soon.

Okay. So Miami, stuff keeps happening. We're still on pause, which I don't even like saying those words today because of another show that we'll talk about in a minute. But there's still been a lot going on. We've had a couple different cocktailers who spotted Alexia with Todd out and about in Manhattan. They said she was friendly, gorgeous, even more gorgeous in person. And we've heard from other sources that they've been seen together in Miami too. And I'm pretty sure they just moved into a $6 million house that he bought. Again, guys remember, I had to re-look this up because I was like, "They finalized their divorce, right?" And yes, they did finalize it over a year ago. You were always onto this and said something didn't smell right about this situation. Somebody wanted to protect some sort of assets, 'cause they never were actually broken up. They had a bad relationship, but they were always together. Or Alexia felt like she had to do it to protect her place on the show, because he was suing Bravo.

But also in Miami, you guys will remember that Lisa Hochstein's boyfriend Jody, aka Monkey, got arrested and put in jail. That was one of my favorite comments where a fan wrote on Marysol's random post, "Marysol, what are you doing? Monkey's been arrested." So a couple pieces of news on that. One is that we are hearing that Lisa and Jody are back together. Maybe they got trauma bonded. From TMZ: according to legal documents obtained by TMZ, Lisa Hochstein is no longer facing criminal prosecution in connection with allegations that she illegally intercepted communications involving her ex-husband, Dr. Lenny Hochstein. A counselor with Miami-Dade County's Advocate Program notified prosecutors that Lisa successfully completed all requirements of the pre-trial diversion program she entered after being charged earlier this year. Prosecutors announced in court on Monday that the charge would be dropped as a result. The case stemmed from allegations that Lisa and her boyfriend Jody illegally intercepted communications involving Lenny during the couple's lengthy divorce proceedings. At the time, both Lisa and Jody were charged with one felony count.

Let me just say that Lenny has bigger fish to fry 'cause he's being accused of sexually assaulting somebody. I'm very happy for Lisa. I'm not sure how I feel about her and Jody. I never really understood them. I know that Lenny was also trying to go after her home that he was court ordered as part of their divorce to build her and allow her to live in. I believe it was sealed. I hope that Lenny's legal troubles caught up with him, and he's like, "You know what? I have enough legal bills without dragging the mother of my children into this. So I'm just gonna leave it be." Also, a lot of you guys have asked me this, so shout out to our attorney cocktailers or anyone in the medical field. If he is found guilty of what he's being accused of, I wonder how that affects his medical license, because there's a whole ethical component to being a physician. Do no harm, right? That's actually a really good point. With good legal counsel he could argue that it's separate, but he's putting a lot on the line here. Anybody who would know, just write in.

So I hinted to this earlier, we have some really sad news that has now been confirmed on multiple news outlets. This is again why it's always good that we have our time and date stamp on our posts, because we shared it, as much as we didn't want to. So the subject is Ladies of London and The Real Housewives of London. It says, "Bad news for Ladies of London fans, and you may want to sit down for this one. Sources are saying that Ladies of London has been put on pause. This comes on the heels of news that The Real Housewives of London is officially returning for season two, and the series is reportedly making the move to Bravo. The cast of Real Housewives of London season one had Amanda Cronin, Karen Loudrup-Peace, Juliet Mayhew, Julia Angus, who we knew from Ladies of London the first time, Panthea Parker, Nessie Welschinger. All six Housewives will be back for season two." And then somebody else DM'd me. They said, "Hold up. Real Housewives of London is already in post-production. Season one coming to Peacock. We're hearing there might be room for some of the Ladies of London cast, but obviously that won't be season two because it's in post-production. They filmed season two February to April." I was told Stanbury filmed for season two, but the second source said that they did ask her to film, but the timing didn't work out, so they don't believe that she ended up filming. Were the ratings really that bad? It was such a good show.

I have a follower who always says to me, "B, at the end of the day, it's a business." So with Miami, if you were just to look at the Bravo & Cocktails audience, you would think Miami was hugely rated. But not everybody who's online and in the DMs and on Threads and Twitter doesn't always translate to ratings. Miami had very low ratings compared to other shows. So you have a show like Orange County, and we've all been complaining about Orange County for six years. It's boring, but for whatever reason, enough people still tune in to make their salaries worth it. It always comes down to dollars and cents. This is a business. That is the same with Ladies of London. And with Ladies of London, one would think the salaries are less 'cause it's a first-season show, which is a lot of times why shows that don't have huge ratings get the second season. But I feel like it takes time for people to get invested, so I think it's short-sighted. One more season would have helped. Maybe it's just a matter of Ladies of London's ratings weren't that much better, so let's put Real Housewives of London on Bravo or Peacock, push it out. We're paying one group of women's salaries, one production team, and they figure that those of us who loved Ladies of London will just be easy to convert. So that's what makes sense to me from the exec's point of view. I hate it. First of all, if I don't get Margot and Kimmy in some capacity, I'm just gonna invite them to my house, 'cause I'm obsessed. And Martha. I love her. Emma, you can't take your eyes off of her, and she has the most interesting life. Hopefully it really is truly just a pause, and maybe they're just looking to see how much fan backlash there is, and they'll bring it back. Because we need to see these people on our televisions.

What do we want to tie up with? Let's do the Southern Charm, just because we had some good tea last week, and there's more, obtained in the same way, which is hilarious. So the Southern Charm tea continues to flow. These people talk too loudly on airplanes and never stop. Because this is Austen doing it this time. A lot of people spotted him on a plane from LAX. We saw him and Craig hanging out with Stassi and Schwartz and Beau. I feel like now that Kyle and Craig have made amends, and Beau did say, "Can we get some crossover?" I feel like they're pushing for a Winter House-type show. Let's get a Winter House show. I'd love to see it. So back to the Austen tea. Somebody told me they saw Austen with a girl. But this person said Austen was not with a girl. "I flew LAX to Charleston. I sat right behind him. He was sitting next to my grandma in the exit row." So I asked Grandma again, 'cause she got a little mixed up. And somebody wrote to me and they were like, "Wait, B, we have grandma cocktailers now?" And then a whole bunch of you got offended, like, "What are you talking about, B? Many of your cocktailers are grandmas." And I was like, when I think grandma, I'm thinking '80s. I'm not thinking our hot glamas that we got over on Cocktail Party. In any event, Grandma asked again, and he was talking about a girlfriend that was on Survivor. So all of you were like, "That's Chelsea." Grandma said yes, he was talking about his ex-girlfriend. All he said about current girlfriend was, "My girlfriend and her family went to my restaurant yesterday, and she ordered deviled eggs." To be continued. I don't know what the deal is, if he has a girlfriend or if he just meant my girl that's a friend.

Tea We Hoped Wasn't True

But here's what he had to say about the Maui trip. Shep and Craig had an awkward conversation. Now, we heard that Taylor and Craig had been hanging out. You and I both agree that we feel like it's just a friendly thing. We know that she made out with Whitner. But apparently there was a lot of yelling and a story to tell. So I don't know if maybe Shep thinks it could be romantic with Craig, or if they were yelling about Whitner. Then it said, "Pineapple gate?" I don't know what this means. Grandma did not get us enough clarity. Whitney, not to be confused with Whitner, looked rough on the plane, and Austen said he hosted someone from Toronto last week, and it was a total shit show, and said he hoped Austen wasn't scarred from him. So basically this tea doesn't really make a lot of sense now. Sometimes I just post stuff quickly. Well, I think we need to just remember this because there will be something that comes up. Obviously this pineapple situation, there's gonna be something about it. I'm interested about the Shep and the Craig, 'cause I remember seeing something on DeuxMoi that a lot of people assumed was about Sally. Somebody sent into DeuxMoi that Shep was overheard saying something like, "Who else did she hook up with?" And now I'm thinking that could have been awkward to Taylor. Does Shep think Taylor hooked up with Craig? Did Taylor hook up with Craig and then hook up with Whitner? And how's that gonna play out? Again, I'm totally speculating based off of really piecemeal tidbits. Well, and we know from the other overheard plane tea that even Taylor was talking to the producers about how she has a burgeoning friendship with Craig and isn't sure how Shep is gonna feel about it. So this all makes sense. We don't have all the details yet, guys, but of course we share everything we can with you as soon as we possibly can.

So the tea about Wes and Amanda heading to a wedding together. It's always fun when something happens on a Friday afternoon, 'cause I feel like collectively we're all at our own personal happy hour. And so we found out that somebody's coworker was going to the wedding this weekend. We found out that it was the Biltmore House in North Carolina. Nobody knew anything. They had only been spotted at the airport when we posted this. And then DeuxMoi got very similar tea to us. I've been to the Biltmore Estate. It is absolutely gorgeous. The largest residential property in America. The couple getting married asked Wes to officiate the wedding, which of course brought on hilarious feedback, because he can barely string two words together. Then post-scandal, Wes asked if he could bring Amanda. So then people were speculating it was a billionaire Hunt family relative, and people were speculating that it was Grace Hunt's wedding. So I was told, "No, it is not Grace Hunt's wedding." And then we got the intel that the Hunts are the owners... First of all, I go, "Like Hunt's ketchup?" It might be. No, I think it's the family that owns the Kansas City Chiefs. The Hunt family. This is why I'm so happy I have really smart people who work with me, because I write, "Oh, Hunt's ketchup," and everyone's like, "B, the Hunt family owns the Kansas City Chiefs." So then we went in a spiral. Imagine Amanda is hanging out with Taylor Swift and Travis. But then when we found out it wasn't the Chiefs owner's daughter and it was his nephew, we realized Travis and Taylor probably wouldn't be there. They were also on their bachelor and bachelorette party, which we also had cocktail tea on. So for the engagement party, there were no phones allowed, and that was the same for the wedding, which is why nobody had any pictures, just at the airport. But I did get intel. The Hunt family has been in oil and gas, coming from H.L. Hunt.

Well, then one of you guys was at the wedding. You said, "The welcome party today, wedding tomorrow." Then you let me know that Wes was being very nice and taking pictures. Amanda was being so-so. And then we had a video of them when they arrived home. She looked like she popped something in his mouth. A lot of you guys said the comments on the video were like, "Why are we still taking videos of them?" So I feel like people are done with it. Here's the thing. What are we gonna hear? The scandal part is over. They're either gonna have a relationship, good or bad. We got an email, he's already cheating on her. No details, but the person who sent it has sent me detailed information about them before, so it's definitely somebody who knows them. But it's like the scandal part's over, so unless she leaves him for somebody else or he leaves her, there's nothing that can really happen. And I think a lot of people have said, if they're gonna cheat, let's hope they stay together and go the distance to make all of this worth it. But I don't think that they will. That video where she's like spitting into his mouth, I just read that the spitting in the mouth situation is going to be addressed on the In the City reunion. Yes, I did hear that. I think I saw that on Maggie's Best of Bravo.

All right, guys. I feel like this was more combobulated than usual, but that's what we do here. That's what makes it fun. Love you guys. Bye.