173. B was in a jungle; Karen Huger’s out of prison on Tuesday – will she be filming? Who’s lying on RHOC?

In Episode 173 of the Cocktails and Gossip podcast, B is back from a jungle adventure and Amanda has ALL the tea. The big story: Karen Huger is out of prison on Tuesday — but will she be filming RHOP? They break down Karen's DUI case and sentencing, debate who's lying on RHOC, cover Vanderpump Rules and Valley cast updates, share Summer House dating tea, dish on a Real Housewives of Miami fight, and make reunion predictions.

Frequently Asked Questions

B's Jungle Adventure Recap

Karen Huger Released from Prison — Will She Film RHOP?

Karen Huger DUI Case and Sentencing Details

Who's Lying on RHOC?

Vanderpump Rules and Valley Cast Updates

Summer House and Kyle Richards Dating Tea

Real Housewives of Miami Fight Drama

Bravo Reunion Predictions and Hot Takes

Welcome to cocktails and gossip, the podcast where we drink cocktails, but you better believe we're going to spill the tape. We chat reality TV celebrity blinds and the hottest tea from Bravo and cocktails.com
and as always, it's all alleged. And just for fun, we do not verify our blinds. I'm B and I'm Amanda. Let's get into this week's tea.
What's up? Cocktails? Hello, Amanda. Hello, hi, cocktailer. Be okay. I'm dying to hear. How's everything going on your vacation, we leave tomorrow. I'd move to Jamaica. No, I'm kidding. We did 10 days, which, honestly, it was needed. But now I'm like, very ready to come home. Have a few days to get everything together and get those kids off to school. So, yeah, real life is coming, but we have to tell Oh, I sent Amanda my crazy drone picture. It was you guys. So the glamor shots were literally everything I really hoped they would be in more. I especially liked that Bea's daughter, like, did this, like, sassy pose, like, with her sunglasses down. It was so cute. I want to get a picture down now, like that. It looks so cool. It came much more naturally to her. So they put you in this. It's like acrylic, almost like plastic, and you lay in it, they like, put you into poses. And I'm like, this is very bizarre, but she hopped right in. They had all these different poses. I was like, right, you go, girl, I love it. And then yesterday, I'm like, working away and open Instagram, like, probably 20 minutes after the big after two big news things. And I was like, Oh my gosh. I bet B is, like, out on a boat or something somewhere, because I was like, she hasn't posted anything, so I send her this. It's like a siren. It just says, Karen's getting out on September 2, and Taylor got engaged. And I think you guys might have seen it. She reposted it, and I just wrote back, oh my god, I'm in the jungle. I had a feeling. I had a feeling. So we started a new grill, which I tagged Skylark. By the way, I have no partnership with them, as you guys know, I'm anonymous, so if I'm in a hotel and I like it, it's just a recommendation based out the fact that I enjoyed it. It's not like, you know, you could sponsor me, Skylark, I'd love that, but it's cool. It's a boutique hotel in Negril. And then we came to an all inclusive in ocho Rio, which this is where Dunn River Falls. Is which you've probably heard of. It's very well known. It's the one where all the households go, and they all slip, yes, down the high, down the well, you know what? And I bet that some of them actually went to this one, because my sister in law is Jamaican. We have, we have, like, not an inn, but she knows, so she's like, well, Dunn's river is awesome, but it's also very over.
Crowded, because every tourist goes there. So we went to one called the Blue Hole, which is less known, less crowded, gorgeous waterfalls, hiking. Obviously, I didn't jump off anything, but my kids and my husband and they all did jump zip line. All that I walked around, I went in the water, but there I am. And literally, we walked out, and we go back on the bus, and my Wi Fi comes back, and I see this news, and I'm like, Oh, my God, I'm in a jungle. I don't know if it's really a jungle. It's like, you know, the waterfalls. It's like, jungle ish, yeah, awesome. Jungle. I think it was so nice, though, wonderful. Was this a good time of year to go to Jamaica, by the way? Probably not, because it's summer, but my thing with it is it's hot in New York. It's the people say the same thing. When I go to Florida in the summer, it's like, it's hot everywhere. If I'm on vacation, I'm mostly submerged in water or at a restaurant in air conditioning. So for me, yes, but other people will only like, want to go in the winter, I guess because I thought the water was, like, nice and warm, and so warm. Yeah. Can we start with Taylor and Travis so very happy for her, but like, I feel like we were just waiting for it to be made public. So I thought they had been I had thought they'd been secretly engaged for a while too. I read an article last night that his dad, Travis's dad was interviewed, and he said that they got engaged about two weeks ago, so that would have been right around when they did their podcast, which, you know, they definitely seemed a little giddy. And I was kind of wondering when I watched that. I think that's the thing. I think the podcast and the album, it was kind of like duped. I think the dad said though two weeks ago, so I guess they haven't been secretly engaged, and maybe we'll never know, but nobody like had the spoiler. I mean, other than everybody speculating every day since they got together, but nobody like had it, yeah, yeah. I mean, they're they've got stuff pretty well locked down. I had actually the same thought, and I thought it was actually really sweet what his dad said, which he that he was, like, wanting to plan something really big, and that, like, Taylor was really, like, just wanting to, like, just do it, and getting antsy, and so that he just pulled her aside before dinner, because his dad was, like, Whatever you do that will be special, because that'll be the day you'll get engaged, which I thought was very like normal people advice and very cute. Yes, to me, getting engaged is such a big deal on its own that I agree. Like, why do you need pump and so, like, I don't know. It's so exciting in and of itself that I don't need to be in like a helicopter, like Gretchen and Slade. Oh, we'll get to them. We'll get to them. And then our girl, Karen, is getting an early release from prison. Amanda, I'm curious to hear what you think about this, because I think you put up a post, a poll, right, saying, like she's, how do you feel about this? She's done her time or right? Okay, well, we know. So she just said that she's re released September 2, which is, is that Tuesday the day after Memorial Day, right? Or Labor Day? Let's see here, it says one years. Okay, so she had two years in prison sentence with one year suspended, and one year would mean that she was supposed to serve a year, and she's getting out having served six months. So I think essentially, she's getting out six months early. You guys, the poll, 68% of you said too soon, and only 32% felt she served her time. I think it's fairly common with this sort of crime to be released early. You always hear about overcrowding and whatever, all of those things. Listen the personality trait that does something like this, like nobody should drink and drive, right? It happens once. I mean, Karen, the reason she's serving time is because it happened multiple times. Yes, we all saw the awful body cam footage. And regardless of how much Prosecco I've ever drank, I have never spoke to anyone like that in my life. Like, it's, yeah, oh, he's not a very nice person, like, so that's what it is. And it goes back to, I don't think anyone would want to really watch me on housewives, maybe as a friend of to, like, joke around in the background, but, like, you need these crazy people that you tune in for, I don't know. So I was actually one of the 32% or whatever, and this is why, because I think the fact they gave her any jail time at all, I think was very significant. And I think these days, when judges give a sentence, they know that non violent prisoners are probably going to be released early. So I'm figuring, like, they probably gave that sentence, knowing it would probably be an early release of about now. And I think, like I said, like the fact that she's had to go to prison for a significant amount of time is a big enough is a big punishment. And.
So, you know, I don't think another couple of months was really going to make or break a big difference, because, as it was, her life already had to be completely disrupted. She's taken away from her family all of that. So I'm not saying that I have any understanding of what the right amount of prison and what amount, the right amount of time is, but I'm just figuring that when the judges give that sentence, that they know that there will probably be an early release. And so, you know, I think they probably knew, you know, they probably were aiming for six months, yeah, and like, she's not a kid, six months is a long time. But now that we think Potomac is still filming. How? What do we think? Like clockwork, we get an email. Literally, I had your text, and moments later I had an email, and it said Hugo's homecoming as the Real Housewives of Potomac. Season 10 wraps filming. Karen's team is in active negotiations for a last minute return time to her release on September 2, 2025 the plan would set the stage for a two to three episode spin off, documenting Karen's return from jail and her journey to readjusting to life on the outside. Oh yeah, that just sounds funny, like she's a hardened criminal. I mean, she was probably at like a Martha Stewart tech jail, right? I don't even know. And lead to her full time return for season 11. My immediate thoughts, like Shannon was right back on the show, following her DUI. Yes, she only had one DUI, but Teresa was back. They held production for her to get out of jail. So I just and it is conflicting, because on the one hand, why are we giving people who do bad things this sort of platform? But then, on the other hand, it's like we're watching reality television, and I completely expect that there couldn't be any better timing for Karen. Production's still up now, if they had to bring the cameras up and everything, they'd wait till next season. But if cameras are already up. You're talking three days. She's out four days. Yeah, I absolutely think they'll cut her check. I think they'll probably cut her not as big a check, because she hasn't been there all season. Yeah, and they'll give her a couple of episodes. And do I think she'll be back next season? I think that that largely depends on how this season does without her, and if ratings are good, maybe they will cut her loose. I think that that's a possibility. I don't think they're gonna lock her into a season 11 contract like now. I think that they'll get the two three episodes, and then they'll decide, once Potomac airs and ratings come in, whether they want her back or not. Well, I think to your point about seeing those body cam videos of her and of the things that she said and the way that she behaved, I think it's more than just her third DUI Right? Like she's clearly got something going on. I don't know if it's anger issues or what it is that would have created that outburst. And I would imagine, I can't say for sure, but I would imagine if she would do that on a body cam with a police officer, she's probably done this before with other people in her life, and so I don't know. I'm I'm conflicted as well, because I am interested just to hear about how prison was, and, you know how the readjustment goes. But I don't know if I need to see her past that. It's funny, I was at breakfast this morning with my cousin, and she was like, we know what we're gonna get. She's gonna come on and she's gonna say it was great, you know, I took the time to reset and reflect and and then she's going to go right back to being the entitled person that she is. I mean, this is her personality. No amount of, I don't know, yeah, which is why I'm like, I just not sure that I, you know, I always enjoyed her on the show, because she she can be almost a little bit ridiculous in her delusion, which generally makes for a good housewife. But I don't know that I need to see more. I think it might be, you know, like, let's see what happens, see how the the reintroduction to society goes, and then cut her loose. I'm with you on that. Yeah, put her on at least along pots,
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Swerving over to the O say, Yes, I have to shout out our friend at real at face. Reality 16, who re watched the naked wasted episode and shared a recap to her Insta. I shared all of it, and she really broke down the episode and like, picked the clips that were about watching that through a whole new lens, it was alarming. Yes, so like, you see Ryan cornering Gretchen in the bathroom, and she's intoxicated and saying, she's saying, Don't kiss me. Don't kiss me. Link curtain. And her husband are like, we want to drive you home. And Gretchen's like, very clearly, out of it, intoxicated, like, I'm fine. I'm fine. Tamara's like, I think it's better if Ryan, who, by the way, is flirting with her, drives her home. Yeah, and that's where it felt predatory to me. Yes, I think the like having him setting Ryan up to be the bartender and telling him to pour her extra heavy drinks, whatever Gretchen you can taste when a drink is extra heavy, you don't have to drink it so. But it's at the point where she did have too much to drink that Tamara was essentially entrapping her when, yeah, he like, he's like, just give me a kiss. And she's like, literally, like, in a back bend, bent over away from him, and Tamara says, I think it's better if we just if she just stays here, and we let Ryan take care of her. That's felt predatory to me. Yes, I'm with you. So certainly watching it. This was 17 years ago, and you and I were 17 years younger, and let's face it, the world was different, and I think it's changed for the better. In that regard, I certainly I don't know if it's because I'm an adult. Now, if I don't know, in any event, it was disturbing. But now let's move to current day, and what? So here's what I think went down because you guys are like, what do you think about the situation? And then shout out to Kiki Moni, what do you think happened? Who told did Gretchen say this? What I think is, I think that Gretchen, Slade, Jen, Ryan, Katie and Matt over at dinner. I think that Slade and Gretchen got into the story of naked, wasted I think that they may have said something that I don't know. Maybe I was drugged, something like that. I think it was made clear that that part was not to be repeated. I do believe that they wanted Katie to bring up the naked, wasted to kind of remind the audience what Tamara did to her. Katie couldn't help herself. She got this information. She went to the journalist Kiki Monique. Katie knows Gretchen didn't want that part repeated.
So she lied and said, I never said that, but now see What? What? Okay, so Gretchen is also lying because I don't believe Katie completely fabricated the she was drugged part. Maybe Slade and Gretchen didn't say we, we definitely think this. Maybe they alluded to it, but I don't think Katie pulled that out of like clear, thin air if Gretchen doesn't have proof, which I would imagine she doesn't, if she went to the hospital 17 years ago and she has proof that she was drugged, okay, prove Tamara did it. Right? Tamara can sue her for slander. So Gretchen and slay. Don't want that part on camera. That's my that's they can't prove. First of all, I don't believe Tamara drugged her, I don't believe that Gretchen could prove she was drugged by anybody. You know what I'm saying, so I joke has a Yeah, it was it Tamara? Was it Ryan? Was it somebody else there on set? Yeah, so maybe Gretchen did say something like that to Katie. Katie messed up because she had no business repeating it to anybody. Never mind a journalist, lot of blunders on Katie part, and also, I believe that Jen was at the dinner and heard the same conversation. So Jen is pretending like she doesn't know what's going on, because she doesn't want to be involved, like she's like, I didn't repeat anything, so I'm not getting involved, kind of thing. What do you think? What's your I think you make a compelling argument. I, I don't I think that if Gretchen had really thought she had been drugged, I think she would have said so, or at least privately said to Tamara, like, once they became friends again, was I drugged? You know, I just, there's something about that part, like, while I could see that happening, because I could see or, what if Katie said to her at the dinner, or Jen, for that matter, do you think they slip something to you? And Gretchen and Slade were like, I could be, I don't know. Like, yeah, and they something like that, then got twisted to that. That is what a little more likely, where, you know, you said the word alluded earlier, or maybe it wasn't like a straight up statement, and then Katie took it and ran with it, because Katie smelled essentially an opportunity. But that obviously went, went really wrong. But I think, I do think that if Gretchen now, I think it could have been just as possible. If Gretchen really did think she was she could have filed a police report. She could have sued Tamara. She could have sued the network. I just don't think she actually did go to the hospital, so I don't think she could prove it. I think the other thing here is, while Tamara was definitely, like I said, her actions bordered on predatory. In this case, I don't think she would have set her son into a situation where it he could have possibly been in trouble, or, you know, it that there was some sort of drugging of Gretchen. I just don't think a mother would put their son in that situation, although it really did surprise me watching that back again, that she let that go on with him, you know, quote, unquote, as he called it, flirting. I think Katie added to the story when she met with Kiki Monique, because it's clearly a really shocking thing. I don't Kiki obviously has no reason to make this up. If, in anything she had 100% I don't think, I don't think Kiki is in any way guilty in this. I think she's the unfortunate person that they pulled into it. Yeah, I agree. And I think it's hard out here for us, quote, unquote bloggers on the streets and like I, I'm sure not just wanting to keep herself in good graces with Bravo, but you know, you and I always, you know, protect our sources too, because we want, we want information in the future as well, and I'm sure he's gotten lots of fakes through her career that she has not shared because she was told not to exactly. I don't know. I think I still go. I think I think Katie, I think Katie embellished, and I think Katie went stuff way out of line in this situation. And like, I know there's been a lot of backlash and support for her, but I'm still seeing somebody who can't seem to get a straight story out of her mouth, and I just don't, I don't trust her. Well, yeah, because she's like, Well, I was prep protecting Gretchen. But the thing is, whether Gretchen said, Didn't say, alluded, Katie took something and brought it to quote, unquote, journalists. So why'd you do that? If you're friends with Gretchen, right? We got an email. Again. Could be nonsense, but we have to share it's been re shared by reality tea and reality blurb. So thank you guys.
For crediting us this. But you know, those of you guys listening to podcasts know, if you want to be the first to know about what's going on, stay close to our website and obviously podcasts and discord, because the tea has really been flowing in lately. So the subject is Alexis again, ahead of Real Housewife of Orange County's landmark 20th season, producers have been begun eyeing a full time return for Alexis Bellino to spotlight her pre and post marital journey with John Jansen. Gag, that was my addition. Sorry but gag, The move comes after last year's decision to side with Shannon over Alexis, which is a choice executives now view differently, as Shannon has been increasingly difficult to film with refusing to reconcile with certain castmates and experiencing frequent emotional meltdowns. Ideally, Alexis will join Tamara, Heather, Gina, Emily and Jen full time, Gretchen is expected to appear as a friend of if she ends the season on a decent note, alongside a new cast member with ties to Heather and Gretchen's latish Newport social circle. Executives still plan to invite Shannon back in a reduced fund capacity, although they are prepared to move forward without her if she declines, as previously reported, Katie isn't expected to return, although, of course, that would change. Following could change. Following their union producers are also looking to tap legacy OC housewives, Becky, gundelson, Gina Keogh, Kimberly, Bryant, Joe De La Rosa and Lori Peterson for either a 20th anniversary party or a special dinner event. Despite recent rumors, there are no plans to end the franchise after season 20.
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So? What? What of the cocktail said to me, which I thought was really cool, and I wanted to mention it to you, they said, What I wish they would do for season 20 is bring back four to five OGS, just for one, all cash trip, get a few episodes out, like right in the middle of the season. I think that's a great idea, like mother, even almost like a girls trip in the middle of OC season.
I think that's genius. Bravo, by the way. Shout out to our cocktail who told us that. So I noticed Emily's name is included. Seems like a lot of people. We got Alexis, according to this email, we got Alexis, Tamara, Heather, Gina, Emily Jen. That's six, then you're talking Gretchen is a friend of which, again, we hear she ends on a very bad note. I guess they're waiting to see how the audience reacts to it. What popped out to me, and something we mentioned last week, was they have been wanting to tap Gretchen's Newport social circle. I think that if they can get a friend of from that circle. Maybe Gretchen stands a chance. I Heather is also involved in that circle. They've been wanting someone from that crew for years. So again, let's see, yeah. I mean, I think right now, everything's probably on the table, right? All things are possible, yeah, because they usually start filming like in January, right after the holidays. So I got an I got some tea on the California filming. Yeah, they're gonna, like, pick up fairly soon. Oh, I want to open it so I don't misspeak. But Alexis coming back, like, I just No thank you. I think that we.
Can I think that we can minimize Shannon's role without bringing Alexis back? Yeah, I don't think like one has to do with the other. What I think a more viable thing, and what I could see happening is I think that Alexis would show up for the opening of an envelope. So I think if you want to have Alexis go to lunch with a couple of the women, maybe Heather and Tamara, whomever she's still friendly with, and show pictures of the wedding, and maybe a clip, because we know that Tamara is going to be at the wedding, and talk about a little bit and so we get that suffices. I don't think we need more than that. Yeah. I mean, I don't really feel like I need to see her again ever, definitely not John Jansen again ever. That's fine invite her to the dinner or whatever. I just don't, I just don't find her interesting, and I find John despicable. I also agree that it probably is time also for Shannon to take a little break, or at least a reduced role. And I think, I think that makes sense. I think, you know, I've always had a soft spot for Shannon, but this season, she's just unfocused and quick to go from zero to 100 in terms of emotions. And it's, it is. It's just kind of, it's wearing on us, and I have a feeling, unfortunately, it's probably also partially to her just being on love hotel as well. I think she's maybe a little overexposed right now, and she was difficult on Love Hotel, and then she was difficult on this season of OC with production. And I think I absolutely anticipate a reduced role regarding filming. What I was told was Beverly Hills cameras are gonna go down any minute, Valley will pick up, which is absolutely true, because I posted a notice of filming the valley. I believe it was September 3. This person said, then OC will film after the valley, then Vanderpump Rules Season Two reboot. We are getting the first season of the reboot for Vanderpump in October. So, yeah, lots of California filming. OC will pick up. So if, if the valley's picking up September, then, yeah, I think your January is probably pretty on the nose, yeah. And that all makes sense as well to me, because I'm sure that. I mean, I guess I don't know if they have the same production they do. It's Alex Baskin 32 for the year. Yes, so that, of course, they would be doing back to back, because then they've got efficiencies. They can keep people employed. That makes sense. Yes. So speaking of valley, a lot of news came out over the last week, because Britney is with a new guy, and Kristen Doty, I guess, got to meet him. And like she said, I think she's such, like, head over heels for him, something like that, like meaning that she really loves him, for Britney. And I think she even said something along the lines of, she's met the other guys that Britney has dated and not really cared for them, but this guy, she really, she really likes. And as soon as some media attention came onto it, this guy who is going through a divorce as Brittany is going through a divorce and, well, actually, technically, according to the people who know them and messaged me. They haven't filed anything, just estranged. So I was gonna say, like, there, this is a real I mean, I'm sure you're seeing it, but like, when you're in your you've had kids, you're in your like, 30s, 40s, and people start to get divorced. It's not like you file or you make the decision to get divorced and then you snap your fingers and it immediately happens, right? So some people are in going through the divorce process for years and years. My opinion is that when you well, you know once you filed or you've made the decision to divorce because some couples wait to file until they've worked stuff out with their lawyers, and then they file, and then they file the final paperwork, and it's kind of open shut people approach it differently anyway, like, it makes sense to me too that, like, he's a dad, she's like, they're both Going through divorces. It's can be very it's very helpful. I can speak from experience, when you're going through a divorce, to have other friends who have been through it, so you can support each other. Because there's just so many, I used to say, like, just felt like there for a while, every day was a new box of what the fucks you know when you're going through divorce? So anyway, I it makes sense to me. I think that this ex wife, or estranged wife, it sounds like she's just looking for her 15 minutes. Yeah, so he separated from her. She has three children with him, and she took the Tiktok and made these videos. I think any of us can imagine it's hard to see your stream.
Husband who was a private person, and you're a private person now out with a reality star and getting a lot of media attention. So of course, I'm sent these tick tocks that that his estranged wife posted, and then I hear there's another he has children with another women woman. I'm not sure if he was ever married to the first woman, or if they just have children together. So in my DMs, I get a DM that said, OB, he's got another baby mama who is wild, so that should surface soon. Within minutes, the first baby mama commented on my post saying, I am Brandon Hansen's first child mom, and they have, in fact, been separated for seven months. He is not a bad father and pays jazina child support. That's his estranged wife. He's involved in their kids lives, as he is with our daughters. So he has three with his estranged wife and two with this woman, so five children altogether. It's very funny to me that she's trying to make him look bad when she had an affair with him while I was pregnant with his first child, and even after she was born, the hypocrisy is real, and this is just a case of a bitter baby mama. Brandon and Brittany are both still technically married, but both separated. Nobody is doing anything wrong in this situation. So that is from Britney's boyfriend's first baby mama. Yeah. I mean, I'm sure, like, I said, Justina. She's just looking to cash in, who, by the way, looks a hell of a lot like Britney. Yeah. Isn't that funny how people have types like that? When I saw her picture, I was like, Wait, is that Britney? Like, I was confused, because it was, I don't know. I go because people are just sending stuff. And I'm like, is that? And I'm like, No, that's his wife, ex, estranged, whatever. But I was like, they look exactly alike. People have types, if anybody follows Zach Bryan, the country music singer. His ex girlfriend was Brianna, who was on bar stool. And in that universe, his new girlfriend looks exactly like her, exactly like people have types. That's like Tariq from flipping whatever TV show. Yeah, Christina hack and the new one who is on selling sunset, are legitimately twins, and now they're like best friends, which is awesome. And we love good co parenting relationships. But I gotta tell you, it's a little trippy when they post pictures, because they're it's like, he's like, has sister wives that are twins. I know they need, like, sweaters with their names on them. I mean, I'm just gonna say this. I don't think that this is anything more than a case of this guy is broken up with his wife. Britney is broken up with her husband. They're dating. What I will say is this, Britney has a very chaotic life. She has Jax as an ex husband. She is on a reality show. She is raising her son as a single mom. You know, Jax is involved, but we know that that's we know that there's just, I'm just saying, if I'm Britney, I'm not gonna look at Brandon, who has two ex baby mamas who are both wacky daki based on messages we've got, and just, you know, five kids and all the complications that come with that, and be like, You know what? That's who I want to date, because my life isn't complicated and chaotic enough. Let's add a boyfriend with an estranged wife who's gonna post us all over. If I'm Brittany, I'm saying to Brandon, like, after this whole week of all this drama, you know what, I'm gonna push the brakes and I'm gonna focus on myself, my career, my kid, and maybe find a less complicated boyfriend. That's just my advice, I couldn't agree more, especially having being in a relationship with somebody who has two exes, and that means he is juggling two schedules on his own, and then that's it's even in the best of situations, that's a difficult situation, just logistics wise, even if everybody is all friendly and Kumbaya and holding hands like that is logistically difficult. So I completely agree. So yeah, it's too it's just, but here's the thing, she just doesn't make good decisions. No, you know, people can't help themselves, like she can't help that she fell in love with Jackson and all of that, but now you've learned you're older, you're wiser and like so if you're gonna make excuses for this guy, and maybe he's a nice guy who the situation is just too complicated, yeah, if you were a person with logic, you would say, You know what? This is too much for me, given all the complications I have. But she's not going to do that. She's going to date him. It's going to be on the show. The baby mama is definitely going to sign for a buck 380 and film, Oh, for sure. Like, why?
Wouldn't they have her? You know, she's gonna be bottom of the barrel, cheap and bring McBee, galena energy, so like she's a production dream. Now, is Britney just looking to secure a great storyline? I wish I could say, think it's that. I just think she's a person who makes terrible choices. I think she seems like she makes great choices for her son, but terrible choices on her own behalf. Yeah, so you got that DM from the person who knows him, and said the guy you posted in the story is amazing. His ex, literally days ago, told him she was happy for him, then proceeded to do this because she's jealous that he's with her. His ex has been out of the picture for a long time now. She wants her 15 minutes, and she's getting it also. When he the boyfriend, sees Brit, he revolves that time around his work schedule and his schedule with his children. He never misses moments with his kids. He pays child support, takes those kids any time of the day. He has taken my kids for play dates, because that's how amazing he is. His bitter ex is just jealous when he's with Britney and is trying to ruin it for them both. I will say that actually is a really good sign if he takes other kids for play dates, or he has a really nice sister who sent me a DM to give him some good if I could beat her. I'm only teasing. I have no idea who sent I just back up. Brittany. Pump the brakes. That's my advice. Yeah, if he's a good guy, I'm sure it's possible. Let him figure everything out. Let him file let's let things calm down. Yeah, agreed.
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Oh. Beverly Hills, yeah, do you want to read that email? I will read it. Okay, it's subject. Who holds the diamond with filming, just about finished, Beverly Hills season 15 newbies, Amanda Francis and Christine Blackman, both introduced by Kyle, have been competing for the seventh diamond producers have a tough decision ahead, as both are the quintessential Beverly Hills, housewife, rich, married, gorgeous socialites who have been in prominent la circles for a hot minute. Our sources are saying it's a 5050, toss up, but the edge seems to go to Amanda Francis. She's a wild card with a young family often finding herself in the group's conflicts. Christine is more laid back and goofy with a full, layered family life as the wife of a Hollywood director and is also in the entertainment industry herself. My thought, let's give them both diamonds. Why not? Like, why can't we have some extended length episodes and just make it work? It's Beverly Hills. It's their like, marquee show. If we like them both like run with it 100% I'm with you on that. I would also like to point out that our girl, Garcelle, walked away from a check big enough to
have two new people, Denise, Rachel, Zoe damn Garcelle is a boss because, yeah, we know these shows have a budget. Beverly Hills obviously has a big budget because they're dealing with Kyle. I just there's a lot of big checks being written there. But the fact that Garcelle leaving allowed for all of these people to come shows that she really up and left Pro, I would say, a million love, the fact that one of them is a husband who's a Hollywood.
Director, give us Hollywood, give us the entertainment industry. It's what we want from our Beverly Hills people, yes, I agree. Somebody like Chris. Wait is it Amanda's the one with the social media account? Yeah, see you follow her. I never knew who she was. She's got, like, a motivational Instagram influencer. I'm excited to meet her, but something about her says, like, maybe we're getting grifter energy, like, kind of, like, Dorit kind of comes from nowhere and then gets involved in, like, this prominent circle. Definitely, if you follow her, she talks about how she came from nothing, so she is not she's not an apple baby. She does not come from, you know, the highest of La circles. She's definitely worked her way up. So, I don't know, I think I say, Let's see them both. Yes. So we got some good scoop on summer house. One of the cocktails sent us pictures from a dog rescue fundraiser in the city called for every or it's called every last one, and it's a dog rescue out of New York City. And they filmed with a bunch of the summer house people like West Lindsay, Amanda Kyle, and there was a girl named, I hope I say this right, Dara Leviton. She's a makeup influencer on Tiktok, so I hadn't heard of her, but when I shared the video of her, I got a lot of you guys in my DM saying, oh my god, we follow her. We love her. She does makeup on Tiktok and Instagram. She's got a cool account. Of course, I followed her after that. She reminds me of Paige, beautiful brunette, very fashionable, something just very it girl about her. I think that this is certainly their casting to try to capture that page magic. Let's see if it works out. We don't know her yet. Little bit disheartening. Somebody who was at the fundraiser said that first the good news, Kyle and Amanda hung out for a long time. They shared the charity to their Instagram. Lindsay was awesome. Wes stayed for a long time partying, but they said the new girl didn't interact with any dogs and left the second she was done filming. So I don't want to like cloud our judgment. Maybe she has a dog allergy, I guess. Let's wait and see. I didn't love hearing that I'm looking at her sideways. If she doesn't like dogs, right? I mean, mine annoys me constantly. Listen, I'm legitimately allergic to dogs, but I'm not like, yeah. Like, if I were going to a fundraiser, or if I were going to Amanda's house, or any of my friends house who have dogs, I take my allergy medicine, yeah, and I go, like, you could pet it, you know what I'm saying, like, and wash your hands. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Agreed. Um, so the other and, you know, she's this girl's got, if they're trying to make her the next page, she's got some big shoes to fill. So maybe she was, yeah, maybe she was nervous, nervous, like you said. We last week talked or shared about somebody who used to be on summer house dating a married man, we have not had any denials or any pushbacks, or really anything come in to our DMS or our email, interestingly enough, so I guess we're gonna assume that it's all accurate, because I think that somebody would have pushed back on it if It wasn't, yeah, and a lot of you guys reminded us that when Gabby first started on summer house, she didn't like Danielle because Danielle dated Gabby's boyfriend while Gabby and her boyfriend were still together. Now, of course, Danielle said, like, I had no idea that he was with you, and Gabby, like, accepted it, and they made amends and moved past it, because, you know, this was a couple years prior. That's kind of coming into question, because I don't know twice now this is happening. Listen, and I'm of the belief that the person in the relationship is the one responsible to respect the relationship. It's not anyone else's responsibility to honor my marriage, except my husband and myself, but when you're the other woman, yeah, I'm gonna look at you sideways, especially when it's something that you've done on more than one occasion, yeah, I'm 100% with you. And yep, we're looking at you, ex, summer house person, okay, let's talk about Miami, because it's been wild, really, since they've gotten to Seville. This episode, we still have Lisa and Larsa fighting, literally fighting in the streets of Seville, which I found kind of entertaining, because Lisa is still following Marcus on social media, and then we know.
Lisa is late to everything. That's been another big theme, but a couple big things happen in this episode. So first of all, I have to say, while it wasn't the focus of the episode, the whole scene with Lisa where she gets a text saying she has to have something notarized within two hours while she's at dinner in Spain that would have set my stress through the roof, and I feel like because Lisa talked so much about her divorce constantly, that people have just become numb to it, but that is such a messed up situation, like, of course, Lenny is still messing with her and making these wild demands, knowing full well that she was in Seville and that she would have to drop everything, and that it wouldn't be easy to just find a notary while she's in Spain. I just feel for her, and I feel like there wasn't really much attention given to that, and I just hope for her that this divorce hell is almost over. And so they also wanted Lisa to put her phone in the basket. Here's the thing that one of you guys pointed out to me, which is something and this is why the DMS and the emails are fantastic, because you guys give us so many different perspectives. What you guys said, as far as her taking notes in her note note app, is people who are in bad relationships and being gaslit, dealing with quote, unquote narcissist, which we know is overused, they do things like take notes so that they don't get manipulated. So she This is defense mechanism. It could be dealing with her marriage so she wants to write stuff down so she can, like, understand what was said and listen, Lisa has a lot of annoying qualities. Okay? She is ditzy. She is very self involved. I know Laura fan, but I will take her side. Lisa should have unfollowed Marcus, yeah, I don't need to be best friends with somebody to unfollow their ex who's slandering them. I mean, it's just Miami is chaos right now it is i It is
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Do you think Marisol and Julia sitting Lisa down? Do you think that was mean girl stuff? Or do you think they.
Really were unnerved by Lisa taking notes on them. I will say Marisol. I always find that she can be a little bit manipulative. But where Lisa is concerned, I always have felt that she has a true affection for her. She calls her her monkey. So I think Marisol was trying. I don't think anything Julia does is authentic. I think she's a phony fuck. But where Marisol was concerned, I think she was saying to Lisa, Lisa, like, listen to me, whether rightful or not, the group is about to come at you, just follow along with this. Like, I think that Marisol was trying to help in a way, right? But Lisa can be very unreasonable, too, right? Now, she should have just unfollowed Marcus from right day one. Like would have been, yeah, I agree, yeah, yeah, no, I think that's actually at first I was really thinking that that was kind of just mean girl behavior. But I think you're right, because she does, marticel does have
a real affection, I think in a soft spot for Lisa, in Lisa's defense, she's really getting it from all sides the women, Lenny still doing all that I could kind of understand wanting. I mean, if I were a housewife, I would want some way to take notes, just so that I could keep everything straight, because there's so much fighting, and like so many words used, you kind of want to have the exact words versus the gist of these arguments. Like I the reason number 1 million why I would never want to be a housewife. But I think especially after that whole fight that happened with Jody in Milan. I think I can kind of see why she would be doing that. But anyway, the big fight that goes down at dinner, it's not Larson and Lisa, although at one point, Larsa threatens to leave earlier that day when a Lisa Kiki Julia are out doing their like daytime thing. The ladies persuade Lisa to stop following Marcus, and she finally does. They also make a pact saying they won't tell anyone and that it's Lisa's story to tell. So at dinner, while Lisa is away, like from the dinner, dealing with the divorce, notarization, whatever Adriana tells everyone that Lisa unfollowed, Marcus, Larsa has almost no reaction, but Kiki gets pissed because she knew they had this pact. Adriana doesn't see what the big deal is. She's like, I think this is just good news, and their fight escalates, and it gets this point where Adriana tells Kiki she's being ratchet, and Kiki fires right back, calling Adriana old, obviously right where she knows it's gonna hurt. Well, I think if we're reading between the lines, the reason Kiki got so mad is because they made the pact. Because it's quote, unquote, Lisa story to tell, meaning it's Lisa's storyline. Why are you hopping on it? Adriana? Because Adriana doesn't have much of a storyline except for her rental boyfriend. And I like Adriana, and I think she's good TV, but she was like, Oh, this will get me camera time. This will get me in the mix. And I think if we read between the lines, that's kind of what everyone is always annoyed at her about doing those sorts of things. So Kiki was like, here we go. We made a pact. In other words, we're going to let this be Lisa and Lars the storyline, but you're inserting yourself. So I think that's where Kiki's anger came from. Because Kiki's like, yeah, I could have brought it up. Like, I could use this, I could use the story. You know what I'm saying. So yeah, I think Adriana needs to watch out, or she could end up in the same situation as Shannon from OC Yes, yeah. So that fight has happened, and then Stephanie, who I'm liking less and less because of this PJ thing, like it just reeks of insecurity to me that she needs to hold who gets to be on the jet, and how everybody needs to behave on the jet that she's holding this over everyone's head, really, just for the power trip. I just feel like people who want to spend time with you because your jet are probably not the people you want in your life, and it just makes her look like she values what people have more than what kind of people they are. So pretty shallow. And how does this first season housewife decide she's the boss like I find her very annoying. I'm actually disappointed, because I thought she'd be more interesting than she is. Yeah, Dr Nicole had a jet. She didn't give it a reason where she got to rule the group. I find her bossy. I just I loved when Marisol said, we don't have to answer to you. Like, she was like scolding them, and they're all like explaining, and Marisol is like, hold up, like, I don't have to answer to you. Like, why I didn't go on your jet? Why?
Guess why I that? Yeah, the Kiki and Adriana, they're getting into it. It's the discord amongst them is at an all time high. And we got an email, and just to sum it up, because I know, like, sometimes you read the whole emails, I don't think it's necessary in this case, yeah, but the gist of the email was, like, next year's cast is very uncertain, because there's so much bad blood and fighting that they have to figure out what makes sense. Sadly, I see Gertie as being on an island, Alexia, Marisol, Lisa and Larsa. The email said they'll be fine. I get it because they have history they can resolve. I don't see them going anywhere. I think Gertie is in trouble, because if you're not friends with any of the women, and in real time, even her and Kiki fell out, like post reunion, so whatever went on there? Yeah, I think fans like Gertie, and I think they're gonna see it as an injustice, because they kind of feel like the cast is ganging up on her, and it puts production in a weird spot, because you can have a fan base who doesn't want you to get rid of Gertie, but logistically, as a production company, they spent all TR they Gertie has not been able to get back into the fold. Whether the women are isolating her purposely and being unkind, whatever it is, you can't really move forward. And I think although we see Lisa and Gertie and they're like, friendly, ultimately, Marisol and Alexia can call Lisa up, which they will do, because whatever reason they want Nicole out, and they to stay out, and they know that if Gertie is gone, she won't come back. I think they can call Lisa up. They can get her back on their side and, like, who else does Gertie have? Yeah, that's a great point, because I was going to say, you know, yeah, we've seen Lisa guardy and Adriana kind of
hanging out and taking pictures together postseason. But that is a good point, because I do, I don't believe for a minute that Lisa wouldn't just jump right over back to the other side. I'm with you, and you're right, and I think Gertie really needs Nicole to come back in order to stay on the show. Do we think? And I forgot what the email said about Stephanie, because I don't see it like I didn't recap that because, like, Stephanie annoys me. But do we throw out somebody after one season? I feel like they're going to give her a second season, flesh it out like, kind of like they did with Katie Janella. I don't I think she got attacked a lot at the reunion. She obviously went against Heather Dubrow, so she wasn't on strong footing. And they gave her a second season, and she floundered, and I think her time is up. Stephanie can look at this season and be like, Wow, I really, I played this too hard, and come in and have a better sophomore season. I think it's possible. I think she leaned in too hard to the girl bore thing, yeah, which is fine. It's just she's sort of like a Jen Aiden. She gives me Jen Aiden energy, minus the children. I don't know that I necessarily see Stephanie being anybody's Bulldog, necessarily, like we saw Jen. Oh, she backs you are so pretty well, though. Yeah, no, that's true. And I think too, production is probably looking at all the things that are happening in Stephanie's life outside of the show, and are probably like, we should probably keep cameras on her, because something looks like there's a few things brewing with yes and like, also, let's get to the bottom of why your two sisters worked for you and now no longer speak to you because there's more to it than that. Oh yeah, I think there's a lot more there to see with her, and I'm not done with her yet this I've just been I liked her at first. I just feel like her, her behavior on this trip has just been it just, honestly, you and I both have AJs girls and, like, just some of the stuff that, like, like tween, teen girls do to each other. It just it's that it feels like something about her behavior feels a little stunted, too, with her going for this very much older man, like, there's just, I think there's more to unravel about her, and like, she was his first wife's assistant, and that's how they got together, allegedly, speaking of which, I know this is a little bit of a diversion, but I just have to mention it make me dynasty. We knew that Galina broke up. I think that Steve senior cheated on his wife, Christy. Christy is the mom's name, right? Yes, often that Galina was a straw that broke the camel's back in a recent clip. And again, I didn't, haven't seen the latest episode because I am in Jamaica. I moved here. I'm.
Kidding,
but in a clip I just watched, Galina was their cleaning lady, yes, and there's a picture of her in the kitchen, like, yeah. She was Yeah. Like, what Christy is like, a very forgiving person. But it wasn't just some girl who got a job at his farm. Okay? This was a girl who got a job, and I'm sorry, most likely, Christy hired her, because I don't see Steve like hiring the cleaning staff. I'm would imagine that it's his wife who was doing that. And so you're hired by a woman, and you have an affair, okay? And now you're shocked at Masha, and the Masha of it like it's and she's invited to the wedding, like I'm sorry, but if that were me, I could forgive I could move on. She can work for your father's business, but I'll be damned if the cleaning lady that I hired and trusted in my home who had an affair with my husband is going to be dancing at my son's wedding either. Christy has truly the most forgiving heart ever, or she understands what makes for good television, because I actually just watched it last night with my husband, and we were I was like, oh my god, I can't I cannot even imagine that. But what Christy says is this Jesse and Ali's wedding? Isn't me. It's not about me. So if Jesse and Ally want her there, then I'm okay with it, which I think it's amazing like and as a parent, you want what's best for your kids. And I think that the fact that whatever would happen, whatever, however, Galina got into their life, I do want to say it is very obvious she cares for those boys. She certainly cares for them. She certainly helps them at work. And the fact that Christy is like, you know what? She's a ho, but my boys, she's good to my boys, and my boys care for her. And it is what it is, is amazing. I also think that Christy is like so beyond wanting anything to do with Steve senior romantically that she's like, I don't care, because I'm glad he's not my problem anymore. Well, and honestly, maybe Chrissy was more worried about what Galina would do if she didn't get in by just the wedding, because we've seen her act, or would she crash it? Or which, you know, maybe it's a gallena management moment, versus her having Christy having a heart of gold. That's a good point. Yeah, I like, it's such a good show. I hope you guys are watching it. Oh, you have to. It's such a good binge too. Like, so good you could hop on now and just start watching and go back and binge, because it'll, it'll make sense, like you don't, yeah, it's not hard to follow. Totally agree. We love you guys. The next time you hear from me, I will be off an island and out of the jungle. Hi everybody. Bye.